Thanks for the welcome guys and gals.. We currently hav a focus tdci 115 and have been blessed with a newborn, hense the reason for looking at a cmax, we love the focus but find that the pram takes all the boot and with the back seat being taken up with the kitchen sink,baby and missus, all shopping and cargo has to go on front seat so its not pratical.. Havent driven the cmax yet however been told its fantastic... havent really got a budget just looking for a fantastic deal.. again thanks for the thoughts and feedback you all have left and keep them coming all data is greatly appre