Thanx for the info guys... Should have said in my original post, the car is one year and 8 months old (I bought it when it was 8 months old). The car has done 17k miles, I average about 10k mils per year. I think I am pretty good with brakes, I tend not to brake hard often, and do not ride the brake pedal. Its just that, in my experience, most main dealer garages will try to tell you your pads and discs need changing, even if in fact they do not! And its hard to know if they are telling the truth or not unless you know how long the pads / discs should last, and / or the minimum recom