I really dont give a rats a**e! what any thinks of cars, I look out for number 1 and I like the Focus ST! I recevied mine at the beginning of the week, and have done nearly 200 miles in it so far. I am very VERY impressed with it so far, id say it is just as good as the Focus RS, and more suitable for me as a Family car. Its like a toned down / less hardcore version of the Focus RS.